Purposefully leaving the top-tier Dura Ace free to evolve to speed next season. And letting it trickle the following year down to a speed Ultegra, then a speed and finally a speed GRX. My question: will the microspline freehub make its way onto the road along with the new speed Dura Ace?
My guess is no. The smallest sprocket and jump to the next would ruin some of the smoothness that Dura-Ace has. The 11s road freehub is long enough for 12s already, at least with large sprockets. I guess that you could swap in a XD cassette, but it would have been nice to see a proper Shimano microspline or the capacity to run a HG Maybe next year? SRAM competes on spec sheets and shimano completes in the real world.
Not even entering aesthetics, price and reliability of the brakes… in which xtr is also oh so much better than X01, which is still more expensive than XTR. Been on it since November. As lame as a 10t on a pro tour bike on the road. With the new xtr, good luck shifting 3 cogs at a time, from 3 or 4th gear to the top 51, good luck with that, even with shimano. Sram is lame yankee marketing. Do you exist in real life or are you just an internet vapor?
And guess what! And guess what part two; you could back pedal without a chain derrailing!!!! I also appreciate the range of my MTB cassette. Welcome to this post your heiness! Sram has been giving Shimano a royal ass kicking in the off road segment for years and now with AXS, its going to do it on the road also. There is nothing about wireless that makes objectively superior to other options.
Indeed, and there are ways in which is it objectively inferior. Radios are expensive and delicate, it requires 4x batteries instead of one. They directly give up gearing resolution for a massive gearing jump on a gear that should be seldom used anyways. For the gears that people use frequently, the Shimano is better. Stronger riders will change their chainring appropriately, if they need more speed. They made it an option with Capreo because there is effectively no other way to gear small wheeled bikes high enough.
And look where we are…. They come stock on some high-end Tern and Dahon models. LitePro even makes braze-on front derailleur adapters that will work on a Moultons have been designed to fit cassettes with a 9t for I guess decades now. I guess it depends. Pedaled at 90rpm it results in a speed of 28 mph.
Anyone who manages to spend a significant amount of their time riding at those speeds should have no problem getting a pro contract! Still experimenting, just swapped the threaded 11 for a 12, curious to see if I miss it. Same here. I see nothing about GRX that makes me regret getting my Topstone For most gravel bike owners, lots of riding is done on pavement, because many buy these bikes for versatility, not a specific use case. Then there are tailwinds and pacelines. Not everyone rides exactly the same.
That cross top lever is fascinating! My sentiments exactly. Had this been announced in it would have been huge news. Too bad Shimano keeps proving they are 4 years behind the mark. Best thing out of everything here: RX rear derailleur. Finally an easy 1x conversion for anything with Shimano 11 road or Tiagra Oh well. You know… I actually really like some of the new additions. Whats the BCD on these new chainrings? I suppose its not compatible with any of their existing cranksets with the 2.
Kudos to them for some thoughtful designs. I agree the higher brake lever pivot seems like a good functional change in theory though. These GRX units might change that. As others have mentioned, better late than never, but this is too late.
It took 5 years to get a gravel product to market? So I fully drink the fan Koolaid, but still this is basically recobbled and rebadged parts bin components from other groups. This is not compelling. Your comment reminds me of a Facebook political ad. Road gearing with Clutch derailleur is pretty good for tarmac rides out of the city to where the gravel starts, a gravel loop, and back home from the gravel on the road again. Lame, Shimano, lame. This misses on all marks.
I guess I will continue to just wait for 12 speed XTR di2 with my R levers for my 1x gravel race bike, but I am so close to giving up on Shimano. I may give up and switch anyway. If you need that much range, you should run a 2x. A 1x with that much range has large gaps and poor efficiency at the faster end of the cassette. The ranges on the RDs seem to be a little small yet.
Considering how long the cages seem to be, I am sure those mechs have some excess capacity. So if you want, you might run cassette with You might get some hanging chain on the small-small combos, but that is a minor issue. Anyone know what the body of the di2 shifters is made from? Aluminium of r good, carbon of r less so. Plenty of people in forums having good success running and with Ultegra RX and a RoadLink.
I actually have a R with an cassette and 38t chainring on my gravel bike with no road link and it works perfectly. Suprisingly I have only dropped the chain once as a result of bunny hopping over a hole. I currently have full r with compact crank and a cassette. Can I use a SLX m cassette or do I need the Rx derailleur as well, and will this be compatible with the compact crank?
Considering this drivetrain with the use of M rear derailleur since I already bought the wolftooth tanpan. Chainline issues are not fun. I have a top-pull routed CX bike really all rough road ride — gravel, bad pothole roads, CX, etc. It would rub in the granny gear with a CX70 derailleur — either a clamp-on or a braze on if the adapter was too thick.
The main problem is that it has a I actually shopped around and bought the skinniest braze-on adapter I could find. I eventually started using an MTB front d. Am I seeing an integrated dropper post and brake lever system for the left side? Did Bike Rumor miss this?
Seems like a lot going on here. The and Ultegra groups are very familiar to users, Shimano should have made gravel variants using those names. Road groups work fine for gravel with the addition of a rear clutch and lower gearing. If a bikepacking bike is desired, use mountain group parts. A perfect setup. Well the next DuraAce will likely be Microspline because one of the reasons Shimano made this change was so they could make the freehub out of aluminum rather than titanium.
I was really disappointed with the 2x gearing options on Force AXS. The gearing options here are actually good. It will be interesting to see how the bike companies position the RX8x-level 2x bikes against Force-equipped gravel bikes. I agree. So while Sram sacrifice front ring range range from 16t down to 13t to finally improve front shifting to a very good level.
Shimano flex the muscle saying their front shifting is good enough for 17t? Surprised no one has noticed that the available casettes is still has gigantic gaps and are useless for road:. I have plenty of time on the Shimano cassette, mostly on gravel and CX. I have a question. This is a question referring to smaller gearing on a road-bike. The brakes and cranks are there for quality reasons, the shifters and rear derailleur are same quality as Red but just a bit heavier, but not much.
And on flat road you never need to shift to the small ring with this set-up. The issue is just that the Sram Force 22 rear derailleur does not have the capacity, so my final question is, how and when would this problem manifest itself? Btw, I know Shimano Ultegra can do this, but then you lose out on the weight savings of the Sram groupsets. Please let me know what you think. Droitaubut- A couple of interesting points there. First, you bring up cadence and gear spacing.
This is something a lot of folks miss when they suggest 1X set ups which compromise on this important point. For folks that spin more than mash, it is paramount to have closely spaced gears on the cassette. And chain tension does play a role, as you are picking up on. Raises hand here. Guitar Ted, thank you for your reply. Dr J, Phil S , Schadenfreude — Concerning the Sugino offerings: While they are typically attractive and have nice gearing options, Sugino OX series crank sets are not easily found all the time and when they are, they are expensive compared to the competition.
That said, they deserve to be mentioned and should be more widely known as they have excellent quality and the fit and finish is top notch. Your suggestions are noted. However; as rightly pointed out, we cannot look at every crank set. As you said, it is not the 34T cassette that is the issue as much as it is the 14T spread of the chainrings. You are gaining 2 teeth in the rear but dropping two teeth in the front so chain length should not change. If the B tension screw is not enough to handle this, then try a Roadlink.
Thanks SRAM. Sucks to be us now with older systems, I guess. According to people the Force 22 rear derailleur has a long B tension screw and can even be made to work in the way you mentioned, i. Then you add it back with the jump from a 32T to a 34T. I might not have expressed that well or maybe I am missing something here. Of course that does not help with der capacity as well as the ability of the der to shift into larger and larger cogs hence the Road Link.
Those are different deals. That is where that 36T small ring is so nice among other things. It helps with chain slack issues in the small ring. Noisy as all get out. Exceeding chain wrap capacity would just mean a floppy chain in some of the smaller cogs when running in the small ring, as we just discussed. That is to be avoided. That can be a bother, reminding you to shift the big ring, but is not likely to have you walking home.
However, it still goes over the chain wrap capacity, 39t versus 37t. What you gain with a smaller big ring, you lose with a smaller inner ring in that sense. So chain gets, shorter, but more chain has to be catched by the derailleur in the smallest gear. However, I think if you compare the cassette with the , I think the way the gears are spread is not very nice, especially not for climbing.
So think I could do this experiment. On my Shimano cassettes I swapped my 11T threaded lockring for a You can choose the crank length and chainrings individually for a custom setup. Inner can be , outer can be The Lobo uses a wider mountain-bike Q-factor to support 73mm BB shells, where the Sugino only supports 68mm. I think it is always better to have more than less just in case. I used to ride cassette but for really steep climbs or for really long days or even for bickepacking the ratio was a bit tight.
Usually paired with an and now cassette. So, are you saying that the chains you buy, are too short even uncut? I think the cassette is a nice cassette in terms of spread of the gears, like the is as well. It would be a really good idea for Shimano to produce an casette with a nice spread, in similar style to the Have less than a 16t difference up front is also attractive, certainly for reasons of compensation shifts.
On the other end, the 34t inner chainring is still big enough to be of use on road. Best of both worlds. Front shifting is fast and accurate. I run a similar set up with a Shimano XT rear derailleur still available new and bar-end shifters and 10 speed cassette. Honestly, for rolling gravel I mostly stay in the 36t front ring, the 48t is for pavement only and the 26t for serious bail out.
An added benefit: everything lasts longer and is more reliable: chains, shifters, square taper bottom brackets—this is all a little heavier but the peace of mind is worth it, I learned this the hard way after an external bearing BB failure…. Both my bikes are set up on the gravel spectrum. They both shift beautifully and allow any gear combo. I basically use them as 1x setups on the road, quietly cross-chaining big-big as needed.
Ordered the bike like that from Seven. Works great. Would also work on a gravel bike. As for front derailleur shifting performance, a Sram Yaw that is correctly adjusted is hands down superior to anything that Shimano or Campy has produced. Plenty of resources available, e. Lennard Zinn. GRX derailleur, has stated range for 2. The cage from a GRX derailleur. Relatively close chainrings up front. Seems to max at about 14 diff, might be able to go higher. The R derailleur handles the 4T excess reasonably well.
No problem getting onto the 40 without a roadlink although I do wonder if the shifts might be smoother if I had one. Best outcome is the huge reduction in front shifting. With the stock the corresponding cogs were 27 and Slightly gappier cassette is no issue compared to this benefit. Very happy with my new setup. The total capacity is 35T.. Medium cage sram gx Chain wrap is 35T and long cage is 47T.. Is there any problem if i get the long cage?
Thanks for the inspiration and excellent guidance. It all came together perfectly and the shifting is fluid. Di2 smoothly transitions the front derailleur as I shift up and down the rear derailleur. I was considering going to a 1x but this configuration seems perfect for California Central Coast adventure. Your email address will not be published. Contact Us Event Disclaimer.
Riding Gravel. Might work- good luck getting one. Author: Grannygear Grannygear hails from SoCal and spent most of his cycling days as a mountain biker from the formative years of mountain biking all the way up to the present day. Grannygear and Guitar Ted have worked off and on together since after a chance meeting at Interbike. Related Articles. Fresh Gravel: Maxxis Rambler 40mm Tires. Make sense? Do not go gentle into that good night.
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The truth of the matter is that Vegas pretty much sets all of the sports betting odds for the entire world. Anytime you hear someone asking or talking about Vegas odds, they are simply talking about the odds and nothing specifically related to Vegas. All of the online sportsbooks use services that simply use the Vegas odds as a starting point for events. Then their own systems will adjust the spread depending on how people are betting at their sportsbook.
Exotic bets are there to make for a more entertaining betting experience, but they work somewhat differently compared to the straight bets. But, the original point spread is still used in all these bets no matter how you look at it. Parlays are essentially a combination of two or more bets into one, such as three teams winning their respective matches. These parlays are usually a long shot since so many teams have to win, but in the end, they are also some of the highest paying games.
You can pick teams to cover the point spread, over or unders, or moneylines in a parlay and sometimes you can mix in different sports. Pleasers are some of the highest paying bets, as they take the spread and then subtract points, making it harder to succeed. Then you also have to combine them into another bet of the same type in order to win. The payouts are huge, but it is not likely that these will come in unless you have the utmost luck or some sort of inside knowledge.
Teaser bets bets are the exact opposite, in that you can adjust the spread to be more favorable, thus lowering your payout but increasing your chances of winning. Either way, these are some of the more exciting ways for you to wager.
There are also " If-Bets ", which allow you to combine two bets. The first bet has to win for the second bet to have action. If the first bet fails, the second bet doesn't come through. If you win the first bet, you can then use the winnings on the second bet, essentially building your bankroll.
American odds have become incredibly commonplace, despite the fact that they are not as easy to read as other formats. As an example, American Odds read like this:. In the example above, you can see that Team A has the lowest number of the group and are considered to be the favorite to win this bet. And, with a little bit of manipulation, you can see how these odds will pay if the wager ends up being a winner and that is what we're all here for Fractional betting odds are the easiest to understand.
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And, the opposite can be said for if a fractional value is more than As you can see, the payouts are in the fractional odds, you just need to know which way they go based on if they represent a value greater than or less than one. Decimal odds are slightly more confusing than most other types of odds. In fact, we prefer not to use them when we bet but that is just our preference. Regardless, we are going to give you a little insight into these lines, as we want to give you insight about all of the common types of odds available.
If you look into these odds, you will definitely come out a little bit confused unless you are from Europe where these odds are commonly used than American or Fractional odds. The multiplication game is not as straight forward with decimal odds. Let's take a look at another example:. When looking at decimal based odds, the same thing applies to them as all the other forms of odds when trying to determine the favorite In the example above, the favored candidate is Candidate A at 1.
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